Silver Price Forecast 2013 and beyond: Is Silver Fast On Its Way To $50?

Silver Price Forecast 2013: Is Silver Fast On Its Way To $50?

By Hubert Moolman

There is not just a similarity in how gold and silver trade at the same time period, but also how they trade at similar milestones, despite the fact that those milestones are sometimes reached at different times. This can cause silver or gold to be the leading indicator, depending on the particular milestone. The 1980 peak for both gold and silver is definitely an important milestone. For this 1980 milestone, gold is undoubtedly the leading indicator (since gold has already passed its 1980 high), so it could help us to project what silver might do around this milestone.

Market conditions often cause silver to fall behind gold, for quite some time, where after, silver normally catches-up in a big way. The fact that silver is still caught-up in a trading range lower than its 1980 high, at least four years longer than gold already, provides a classic opportunity for silver to follow that “catching-up pattern” and zoom to multiples of its 1980 high. In my opinion, silver will do just that and move much faster than gold in percentage terms, over the next months.

With gold having passed $1700 (twice the 1980 high of $850) already, given the above analysis, it stands to reason that $100 (twice the 1980 high of $50) silver could be virtually guaranteed.

Below, are two charts that show how gold and silver reacted before and after again reaching their respective 1980 highs:

silver vs gold

silver vs gold

Gold and silver made similar patterns before and after reaching their respective 1980 highs. From the charts, you can see there is a similarity in how gold and silver approached their 1980 high. Both made a triangle-type pattern just before they reached their respective 1980 all-time highs. When price came out of those triangle patterns, it rallied strongly to the 1980 highs, which started the formation of flag-type (pennant) patterns.

Gold passed its 1980 all-time high during 2008, while silver is yet to do so. By looking at the pattern of how gold passed its 1980 high, we can predict how silver might do it as well. If silver continues to follow the pattern that gold formed, then we can expect a massive spike towards the $50 and beyond, very soon. We are very likely in that move to $50, given that the silver price has broken out of the pennant to the up-side. My  long-term silver fractal analysis report  provides more details on what levels silver is likely to reach over the next years.

The $50 level can be compared to the water level, when you hold a beach ball under water and it starts moving upwards. When it passes the water level, it will move faster since it will now only have air as resistance, instead of water.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast: The Great Silver Chart

Silver Price Forecast: The Great Silver Chart

A reader asked me to update a previous long-term silver chart of mine. Below, is the updated long- term chart for silver:

 

silver chart analysis

Since the last chart, silver has broken out of the pennant formation (on the short-term chart), and is looking really good.

On the chart, I have highlighted two fractals (or patterns), marked 1 to 3, which appear similar. What makes these two fractals so special, is the similarity of the circumstances in which they exist.

There was a significant peak in the Dow (1973 and 2007) between point 1 and 2 of both fractals. Also, point 1 on both fractals represents a significant bottom for silver after the peak of the Dow/Gold ratio.  After point 2, on both fractals, the oil price made a significant peak (1974 and 2008), about 8 years after the peak in the Dow/Gold ratio.

Thanks to this similarity in events, as well as the similarity in sequence, I was able to identify the great possibility for significantly higher silver prices, back in October of 2010. This was a very clear signal that higher silver prices were coming, and that is exactly what we got, when silver moved to $49. However, this run is not over yet. The move from $17, when silver broke out of the triangle (at point 3 of the second fractal) to $49 was just the first part of the move. In my opinion the biggest and best part of this move is still ahead. In my long-term fractal analysis report on silver, I have presented a lot of technical and fundamental evidence to support my opinion for higher silver prices over the coming years.

Based on the fractals on the chart, we could still have about two years before we could get a top like we had in 1980. That is 14 years after the Dow/Gold ratio top (beginning of 1966 to the beginning  of 1980 vs the end of 1999 to the end 2013).

It is interesting to note that the peak in silver (beginning of 1974) after the peak in the Dow/Gold ratio (beginning 1966) came about 8 years after the Dow/Gold ratio peak. On the current pattern, the 2008 peak in silver was also about 8 year after the Dow/Gold ratio peak at the end of 1999.

With the first peaks after the Dow/Gold ratio top taking the same amount of years, what are the chances that the second peaks will also correlate, giving as a top in silver at the end of 2013 to the beginning of 2014?

Also, from a price point of view, there is also an indication that this move is not over yet. If the two patterns indicated continue their similarity, it would be reasonable to expect the final top of the current pattern to at least go higher than $140 as a minimum. Why? If you measure the price movement from point 1 to point 2, in the first pattern, and compare it to the price movement from point 4 to 5, in the first pattern, you will find that the movement from point 4 to 5 is at least 7.6 times larger.

Currently the movement from 4 to the $49 in April of 2011 is only about 1.65 times larger than the movement from point 1 to 2. If it follows the first pattern, and grows at least 7.6 times larger, it will comfortably pass $140.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast – Silver Premium Update August 2012

Silver Update

By Hubert Moolman

The silver chart has formed a big pennant like that of the gold chart. What this indicates is that the silver price will likely make a massive move soon. Technically, this move can be up or down. Note that this update is from my premium service originally published on 6 August 2012.

Below is a silver chart with the pennant:

silver chart forecast

The technical and fundamental evidence that I have collected, and look at, tells me that the price is likely to go upward out of this pennant formation.

On the chart above, you can see that the price has actually broken out (upward) of the pennant. We have to give it some time before we can say that it is a valid breakout. Also, I have drawn a blue line, which could become another area of resistance.

If we were to consider a move down, then a first target of $15 and one lower at $5 would come into play, based on the patterns. A price of $5 (and even $15) does not make any economic sense, given the amounts of fiat money currently available.

However, there is a real threat of deflation, currently, and the effect of this has to be considered when looking at the future silver price. In my opinion, we do have a perfect setup for a massive deflation which will destroy a lot of debt-based value.

Stock market values have been driven for years by this debt-based value, and will, therefore, be very badly devalued. Many believe that such a fall in stock market values will take down the silver price. I do not agree, and have given many reasons why.

Here, I would just like to point out that the current threat of deflation is due to the massive debt levels, and the inability to service those debt commitments. You can just look at the example of Spain or Greece.

Silver is a real store of value and that is its most significant function. The current crisis will cause a massive rush to that which can store value that will not be destroyed by the debt-collapse. Silver is just about the opposite of debt.

Previously, I wrote about how this debt-based monetary system has created what I call a “mirror-effect”, whereby, silver (and gold) is pushed down in value, to a similar extent as to which paper assets such as general stocks are pushed up in value. This mirror-effect clearly shows up on the long-term charts of gold, silver and the Dow.

Below, is a long–term silver chart (real and nominal) from 1850 to present (generated at minefund.com):

I have drawn a vertical red line, approximately where silver was demonetized (1870s). Notice how the real price of silver collapsed after the red line, from about $30, until it bottomed in 1931 at $4.29. It then traded side-ways (from the big-picture view) for many years, until it spiked from about the early 1970s, making a peak in 1980, where after, it bottomed again in 2001.

Technically, the bottom in 2001 was the completion of what would be a remarkable double bottom reversal, with the first bottom being in 1931. After a double bottom formation, there is often a big rally, and that is exactly what happened next. If this pattern continues to follow the pattern of a valid double bottom, it will reach levels that will exceed the 1980 high by at least one multiple, but probably by many more.

The interesting thing about this possible double bottom is the fact that the two bottoms came 70 years apart. This 70 years period also appears on the long-term Dow chart. Below is a Dow chart (from stockcharts.com) from 1900 to present:

On the chart, I have indicated a 70 year period from when the Dow peaked in 1929, to the peak in 1999. The reason for using the 1999 peak instead of the 2007 peak, is the fact that the 1999 peak represents the real peak, since the Dow/Gold ratio peaked in 1999 (like it did in 1929).

Notice the dates of the peaks and how they fit in with that of the bottoms of the real silver price, as well as the similar 70 year periods between. In my opinion, the occurrence of the 70 year period on both charts, in the context as explained above, provides additional evidence of the link between silver’s demonetization (or suppression) and the massive debt bubble of this century – as explained in part 1 of this article.

While the Dow is inflated to the peak in 1929, silver is suppressed to its low in 1931. And again, the Dow is inflated to its peak in 1999, while silver is suppressed to its bottom in 2001.

So, the peaks and troughs, as presented in the above charts, are the manifestation (in visual form) of the debt-based monetary system causing paper and related assets to rise, while suppressing silver. Another way of looking at it is that the debt-based monetary system is fuelling speculation in paper assets by using energy diverted from precious metals.

Silver (like gold) stands in direct opposition to the current monetary system (they are inescapably linked). The fall (and falling) of this system is the rise of silver as money; therefore, massive increases in what silver can buy in real terms.

Looking at a bearish pattern to find critical levels

Below, is 6-year chart of silver, highlighting bearish fractals:

I have highlighted two fractals by indicating 4 similar points on both. Based on this comparison, we could now be at a very critical area. A break-down below the support (about $26), could mean that the current pattern could follow the 2007/2008 pattern, and take price much lower. This is presented not because I believe that price will break lower than the support, but to show why I think we are at a critical level, and why we should be watchfull.

Pattern Previously Covered

Here, is a follow-up on my previous article about the similar flag-type formations on the silver chart.Below is a graphic which compares the current pattern on silver (from about the beginning of 2011 to present) to a 2007 pattern:

This comparison is still very much valid; only if price goes lower than $26 could it become invalid. In fact, there is a good chance that price has broken out to the upside.

On both charts, I have suggested how the flag patterns might be similar, by marking similar points, from 1 to 6 (and alternatively from a to h). Based on this comparison, it appears that the silver price might now have found that point 6 or h (at the end of June), and is about to increase significantly.

We could be at very volatile area due to the possible breakout, since this is often the case after a breakout – so be aware! I am of the opinion that silver should make its move higher between now and the end of this month, if this comparison is to be confirmed.

Follow-up on Gold/Silver Ratio

In my last gold update, I covered the Gold/Silver ratio, and explained why I think the Gold/Silver ratio will soon fall straight down. Below is an updated Gold/Silver ratio chart:

On the chart I have indicated a trading channel in which the ratio has been moving for the last five months. It appears now to have finally broken down, out of the channel. This could be a very strong signal that silver and gold prices are about to rise significantly. Again, here we have to watch for a possible retest of that break-down area, before the ratio falls straight down.

Conclusion:

Silver appears to have broken out of the pennant or flag-type formation, and could now finally be setting-up for a massive rise in price. We should, however, be very watchful, due to the fact that we are at a critical area in price and time. There is a big threat of deflation, but, in my opinion, it is this very deflation (brought about by the collapse of the debt bubble) that could be driving silver prices higher.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast: Silver Could Preserve More Value Than Gold

Silver Offers A Golden Opportunity To Convert Soon To Be Destroyed Value

By Hubert Moolman

11 June 2012

The fundamentals for silver and gold are very strong, and with all the massive bailouts, which are increasing debt levels, they are just getting stronger. Until a significant portion of these debts is repaid or defaulted on, it would be foolish to talk about a top in precious metals.

The repayment of debt (or default on debt – which is more likely) will result in significantly reduced economic activity. Significantly reduced economic activity will have a negative effect on the stock market, which in this case, will likely result in a huge crash. It is these conditions (a deflating debt bubble) that will drive gold and silver prices significantly higher.

Why? Because this will not just be a normal type of reduced economic activity, but one in which the monetary system as a whole is questioned or collapses (due to the excessive debt levels).

 In a crisis like this, it will be all about preserving value, which will make gold and silver the most wanted goods. The excessive debt levels we have currently, mostly represent artificial value, or value that will never be realised. We now have a great opportunity to convert that soon to be destroyed value into real value, by buying gold and silver, with fiat currency.

In my opinion, silver bullion presents the better opportunity, when compared to gold. Silver bullion is still trading much lower than its 1980 high, and also at relatively historic lows against gold.

Silver Flag

Here, is a follow-up on my previous article about the similar flag formations on the silver chart. Below is a graphic which compares the current pattern on silver (from about the beginning of 2011 to present) to a 2007 pattern:

On both charts, I have suggested how the flag patterns might be similar, by marking similar points, from 1 to 6 (and alternatively from a to f). Based on this comparison, it appears that the silver price might now have found that point 6 or h, and is about to increase significantly. See my latest video on my website for more details of this analysis.

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Warm regards,

Hubert Moolman

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A Massive Spike In The Price of Silver Is Imminent

A Massive Spike In The Price of Silver Is Imminent

Gold and silver are very close to entering the mania phase of this bull market. In order for gold and silver to go into the mania phase, value has to be diverted from somewhere, and that “somewhere” is most likely stocks. Since 2000, there has been a correction in stock values, in real terms; however, nominally, stocks are still significantly high (close to its all-time highs).

I expect that significant value will soon be diverted from the general stock market, to silver and gold, causing prices to rally significantly, until these metals also become overvalued.

This is exactly what happened in 2007/2008. Below is a graphic (charts from barchart.com) that illustrates how this happened in 2007/2008:

The top chart is for the S&P 500 and the bottom is for silver. I have drawn a yellow line, at the point where the S&P 500 peaked. It is only after the peak in the S&P 500 that silver broke out, and eventually rallied significantly (while the S&P 500 was crashing). From a “fractal” point of view, we are currently in a similar position, with stocks getting ready to peak.

Silver Fractal Analysis

Silver has made its way out of the giant flag; however, it fell back again, lower than the upper boundary of the flag, as shown in the following chart:

Previously, I have stated that price will eventually break out of the flag and go on to make much higher highs. Below, is some evidence to support this view:

The top chart is for gold and the bottom one is for silver. Gold and silver made similar patterns before and after reaching their respective 1980 highs. From the charts, you can see there is a similarity in how gold and silver approached their 1980 high. Both made a triangle-type pattern (green lines) just before it reached the 1980 all-time high. When it came out of that triangle pattern, it rallied strongly to the 1980 high, which started the formation of a flag-type pattern (yellow lines).

Gold passed its 1980 all-time high during 2008, while silver is yet to do so. By looking at the pattern of how gold passed its 1980 high, we can predict how silver might do it as well. If silver continues to follow the pattern that gold formed, then we can expect a massive spike towards the $50 and beyond, very soon. Read my previous article for more about this comparison.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast: Long-term Silver Chart Analysis Indicates Why Silver Is Likely To Pass $150

Silver Forecast: Long-term Silver Chart Analysis Indicates Why Silver Is Likely To Pass $150

I would like to point out some interesting signals on the long-term chart for silver.

Below, is a long term chart for silver:

analysis long term silver chart

On the chart, I have highlighted two fractals (or patterns), marked 1 to 4, which appear similar. What makes these two fractals so special is the similarity of the circumstances in which they exist.

There was a significant peak in the Dow (1973 and 2007) between point 1 and 2 of both fractals. Both peaks in the Dow came about 7 years after the peak in the Dow/Gold ratio. After point 2, on both fractals, the oil price made a significant peak (1974 and 2008), about 8 years after the peak in the Dow/Gold ratio.

Thanks to this similarity in events, as well as the similarity in sequence, I was able to identify the great possibility for significantly higher silver prices, back in October of 2010. This was a very clear signal that higher silver prices were coming, and that is exactly what we got, when silver moved to $49. However, this run is not over yet. The move from $17, when silver broke out of the triangle (at point 3 of the second fractal) to $49 was just the first part of the move. In my opinion, the biggest and best part of this move is still ahead. In various previous articles on silver, I have presented a lot of evidence to support my opinion for higher silver prices over the coming years.

Based on the fractals on the chart, we could still have about two years before we could get a top like we had in 1980. That is 14 years after the Dow/Gold ratio top (beginning of 1966 to the beginning of1980 vs the end of 1999 to the end 2013).

From a price point of view, there is also an indication that this move is not over yet. If the two patterns indicated continue their similarity, it would be reasonable to expect the final top of the current pattern to higher than $150. Why? If you measure the price movement from point 1 to point 2, in the first pattern, and compare it to the price movement from point 4 to 5, in the first pattern, you will find that the movement from point 4 to 5 is at least 7.6 times larger.

Currently, the movement from 4 to the $49 in April of 2011 is only about 1.65 times larger than the movement from point 1 to 2. If it follows the first pattern, and grows at least 7.6 times greater, it will comfortably pass $150.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast: Silver Market Update

Silver Price Forecast: Silver Market Update

Silver is currently trading at key resistance levels. See below, a six-year silver chart (all charts generated at fxstreet.com):

silver long-term chart

On the chart, I have drawn a significant upward sloping resistance line (red line). Silver has now reached that line, trying to breach it and stay above it. It has also reached the top resistance line of a big flag pattern. If the silver price gets through these resistance lines, and stays above them, then it is likely to continue its rise, but likely in a more accelerated manner.

These resistance areas can be very tricky. Price can often react in a violent manner downwards; however, there are no certainties.

What silver will do at these resistance areas is a short-term problem. From a longer point of view, it is clear to me that silver is going much higher. Eventually, it will successfully break out of the big flag and spike upwards past the $50 level.

In a previous article, I have shown how closely silver is following a past pattern on the gold chart. That comparison also suggests that the silver price will eventually successfully breach the resistance lines indicated above. Below, is the chart from that comparison:

silver vs gold

On the charts (silver is the top one and gold is the bottom one, I have marked the two patterns (1 to 5) that are similar on the gold and silver chart. For more details and explanation of the two patterns, please read that full article. If the silver pattern continues to follow the gold pattern, then the silver price would pass the resistance lines indicated in the first chart, and eventually challenge the $50 level.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast: Analysis of the Long-term Silver Chart

Analysis Of The Long-Term Silver Chart Suggests Significantly Higher Prices

In a previous article, I wrote about the shift to measuring wealth in ounces instead of Dollars. In that same article, I expressed my opinion that I consider silver bullion to be one of the best current opportunities to increase one’s gold ounces.

Here, I would like to point out some interesting signals on the long-term chart for silver.

Below, is a long term chart for silver:

On the chart, I have highlighted two fractals (or patterns), marked 1 to 3, which appear similar. What makes these two fractals so special, is the similarity of the circumstances in which they exist.

There was a significant peak in the Dow (1973 and 2007) between point 1 and 2 of both fractals. Both peaks in the Dow came about 7 years after the peak in the Dow/Gold ratio. After point 2, on both fractals, the oil price made a significant peak (1974 and 2008), about 8 years after the peak in the Dow/Gold ratio.

Thanks to this similarity in events, as well as the similarity in sequence, I was able to identify the great possibility for significantly higher silver prices, back in October of 2010. This was a very clear signal that higher silver prices were coming, and that is exactly what we got, when silver moved to $49. However, this run is not over yet. The move from $17, when silver broke out of the triangle (at point 3 of the second fractal) to $49 was just the first part of the move. In my opinion the biggest and best part of this move is still ahead. In various previous articles on silver, I have presented a lot of evidence to support my opinion for higher silver prices over the coming years.

Based on the fractals on the chart, we could still have about two years before we could get a top like we had in 1980. That is 14 years after the Dow/Gold ratio top (beginning of 1966 to the beginning of1980 vs the end of 1999 to the end 2013).

For more of this kind of analysis, see my Long-term Silver Fractal Analysis Report ,or subscribe to my premium service .

Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast And The Shift To Measuring Wealth In Gold Ounces Instead Of Dollars.

Silver Price Forecast:

The debt-based monetary system creates an illusion of wealth. It allows for claims on real goods to significantly exceed the actual amount of real goods. You then have a number of people believing they have wealth, since they have claims (pieces of paper or tokens) showing that they have these real assets, whereas, in reality, if everyone was to claim the real goods, there would not be enough to go around.

The high debt levels, in some way, represent the extent to which there are more claims than the actual underlying real assets.

During the period of credit extension – that has been for at least 80 years – most businesses are set up to take advantage of this system. The system allows for an easier way to increase wealth (illusionary), since only claims on real assets need to be increased, instead of the actual real assets.

As you come to the end of the credit extension cycle, most businesses are dependent on this credit extension, either directly or indirectly. When the debts become too heavy to bear (no one knows the day or the hour, but there are signs), the debt bubble will burst, and over time eliminate all those business opportunities brought about by the debt-based system, as well as the businesses dependent on it.

When this process reverses, there is little opportunity to trade the claim on an asset instead of the actual asset, and also few opportunities to increase the amount of real assets. Furthermore, instead of measuring wealth in terms of claims on real assets (as is now the case), people are more likely to measure wealth in terms of real assets, especially gold.

Today, after a consistent period of credit extension, we have exactly the situation where most businesses are dependent on the debt-based monetary system. I believe we are moving past the point, where any benefit can be achieved from credit extension; therefore, we have the ideal set up for a massive collapse in the world economy.

The increase in the gold price, in real terms, is the clearest signal that it is becoming more and more difficult to increase real wealth (wealth in gold ounces). It will become even more difficult as the economic decline sets in; eliminating businesses very dependent on the debt-based monetary system. Financial institutions like banks would be at the top of this list, but will not be the only ones.

The shift from measuring wealth in terms of paper claims (dollars) to gold ounces, and the limited means to increase gold ounces, will change the business and investment world significantly, and will create a massive rush into those opportunities that increase gold ounces. The shift is already evident, with some countries possibly trading oil for gold.

Currently, in my opinion, silver bullion and gold miners present some of the best opportunities to increase the amount of real wealth as measured in gold ounces.

Both, silver bullion and gold miners are still trading lower or at its 1980 high, and also at relatively historic lows against gold. Silver offers the best opportunity, at the moment, since it offers less risk than shares in gold miners. However, as the gold/silver ratio falls (which is expected), gold miners will become more and more attractive.

Silver Chart Update:

Below, is a 6 year silver chart:

Silver is making its intention to pass the $50 level clear. It is continuing in a pattern similar to gold did, before it cleared its 1980 high (see here). The next important obstacle is to get out of the flag (at about $35 currently). If it continues the pattern that gold made, then it will blast past $50.

For more guidance on silver and gold miners, I have prepared a Long-term Silver Fractal Report ,as well as a Gold Mining Fractal Analysis Report. You are also welcome to consider subscribing to my free newsletter (enter email on side-bar).

Warm regards and God bless,

Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast 2012:I Stand By $140 Silver Price In 2012

Silver Price Forecast 2012:

There is a well-established relationship between how silver and gold trade. They often trade similar in the same time period, but also at similar milestones, although those milestones are sometimes reached at different times. This can cause silver or gold to be the leading indicator, depending on the particular milestone.

I have previously used this relationship to predict how silver will trade. Below, is an extract of that update:


Currently, there is another situation in the silver and gold market that provides an opportunity to predict how silver prices might trade over the coming months. I have pointed this out before, in a previous article. Here, I would just like to provide an update, and add a few more thoughts.

This situation or opportunity revolves around the 1980 all-time high for both metals. Gold passed its 1980 all-time high during 2008, while silver is yet to do so. By looking at the pattern of how gold passed its 1980 high, we can predict how silver might do it as well.

Below, is a comparison of silver and gold around their respective 1980 highs:

From the chart, you can see there is similarity in how gold and silver approached their 1980 high. Gold and silver made a triangle-type pattern (marked 1 -3) just before it reached the 1980 all-time high. When it came out of that triangle pattern, it rallied strongly to the 1980 high, which started the formation of a flag-type pattern (marked 3 – 9).

It appears that silver is now past point 9 (29 December 2011), and will now be eyeing that $50 level.

Market conditions often cause silver to fall behind gold, for quite some time, where after, silver normally catches-up in a big way. The fact that silver is still caught-up in a trading range lower than its 1980 high, at least four years longer than gold already, provides a classic opportunity for silver to follow that “catching-up pattern” and zoom to multiples of its 1980 high.

With gold having passed $1700 (twice the 1980 high of $850) already, given the above analysis, it stands to reason that $100 (twice the 1980 high of $50) silver is virtually guaranteed.

There are many indicators suggesting that we are close to a point where silver might catch –up with gold, relative to its 1980 high, in a big way. My recent analysis of the gold/silver ratio also seems to suggest this. So, as things stand, I expect silver to outperform gold for most of this year, and I stand by my target of at least $140 silver by the end of 2012.

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Hubert

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Silver Price Analysis: Silver’s 2011 Big Move – Was It The End Or The Beginning?

Silver Price Analysis: Silver Likely To Make Explosive Move

The price of a good often behaves in a similar manner at or around the same kind of milestone. An example of such a milestone could be a significant top. Price often forms a similar type of pattern at different significant tops – different in terms of time of occurrence. This is a reflection of how market participants themselves often behave in a similar manner when faced with the same kind of situation. This of course makes perfect sense, since it is normal, for example, to rest after you have been extremely busy for a while. For most people, this is true whether it was yesterday, or in 20 years.

In the current silver market, there are some similarities as compared with the 1970s. There are also things that are much different today, in the economic landscape, compared with that of the 1970s. One of the significant things that is different now is the fact that debt levels, relative to GDP, are extremely high compared with the seventies.

In my opinion, this is one of the main reasons why we are likely to have a massive Depression this time around.

Here, I would like to illustrate how the silver price behaves in a similar manner, today, compared with the 1970s. Below is a graphic that compares the silver price chart of January 1978—August 1979 to the period from January 2009—present (charts generated at barchart.com):

I chose these timeframes because price broke out of the significant high (for the relevant decade) around these periods. I have drawn a blue line at the level of the relevant significant high.

Note how the run-up to the blue line is visually similar in both cases. After going through the blue line, price rallied significantly until it peaked at point b (in both cases). It then corrected/consolidated forming a flag/pennant type formation.

Note that in the 70s and in the current chart, price corrected to just above the blue line. It does not mean it cannot still move to the blue line, since, to stay valid, it just needs to stay at or above the blue line. Note that, currently, I do not see any evidence that we will still go lower than the $26 level.

The comparison suggests that we should now rally towards point d and eventually go higher than point b ($50).

The flag pattern formed currently is significantly bigger (in price movement) relative to that of the 1970s. This is possibly indicating that this fractal pattern is growing significantly, which could mean, going forward, bigger price increases relative to the price increases of the 1970s.

The move from point a to point b, on the bottom chart, was remarkable. It took silver from about $17.50 to about $50, a 185% increase. Compare that to the 1970s move of 33.33% (from about $6 to $8). To me, this signals that silver has changed gears (big-time) relative to the 1970s.

The above comparison is also supported by a comparison I did for gold and silver, in a previous article.

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Below is a graphic that compares the silver chart (from 2007 to today), to the gold chart (from 2008 to 2010) (all charts generated at fxstreet.com):

The top chart is for gold and the bottom is for silver. I have highlighted how similar patterns exist on both charts. On both charts are ascending triangles, out of which price broke out to the upside. After the breakout, price increased significantly from where both formed a consolidation pattern.

The ascending triangle for silver (roughly 30 months) is much bigger than that of gold (roughly 19 months). The consolidation patterns for both charts took roughly the same amount of time to form, relative to their ascending triangles (about half the time of the triangles).

Based on this comparison, it would seem that silver was at point 0 on 29 December 2011, and it is now busy making its way toward the blue line and will eventually pass the $50 level, just like the comparison to the 70s chart suggest.

Also, if you compare the price movement for silver after it broke out of the triangle to that of gold’s movement, you will notice that there is a huge difference. Gold moved from about $1000 to $1227 (a 22.7% increase), whereas silver moved from about $21 to about $50 (a 138% increase). This, to me, says that there is a massive amount of energy underlying the silver market, and when it is ready to unleash, we will see price/value increases that will stun even the most ardent silverbugs.

The kind of movement we’ve seen since silver has moved out of the triangle is normally associated with moves at the end of a big move. So, either that move was the end of silver’s big move, or it was just an unusually big beginning of a really big move, which suggests we will have an unusually big end of a big move (still to come). Again, I see no evidence to suggest that anything we’ve seen so far was the end of the silver bull market, so I am expecting the latter (i.e. a very powerful upleg yet to unfold).

The real power of this expected move is likely to be released only some time after price has surpassed the $50 level.

Below, is a video that illustrates the principle discussed here:

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Warm regards and God bless,

Hubert

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Silver Analysis: Why Silver For A Monetary Collapse? Part 2

Silver Analysis: Silver Forecast

In part 1, I stated:

We are at the edge of a major economic crisis. Our monetary system is the underlying cause of this major crisis. The massive debt bubble created by our monetary system is about to burst. The demonetization of gold and silver, has over the years diverted value from these metals, to all paper assets (such as bonds) linked to the debt-based monetary system.

The process of the devaluation of gold and silver, started by the demonetization of gold and silver, is about to reverse at a greater speed than ever before. This is similar to what happened during the late 70s, when the gold and silver price increased significantly. However, what happened in the 70’s was just a prelude to this coming rally. The 70’s was the end of a cycle, this is likely the end of a major cycle; an end of an era of the debt-based monetary system (dishonest money).

What this debt-based monetary system has done, is to create what I call a “mirror-effect”, whereby, silver (and gold) is pushed down in value, to a similar extent as to which paper assets such as general stocks are pushed up in value. This mirror-effect clearly shows up on the long-term charts of gold, silver and the Dow.

Here (in part 2), I would like to show how this “mirror effect” of silver versus the assets linked to the debt-based monetary system (general stocks in this case), shows up on the long-term charts. This “mirror effect”, also reveals an interesting cycle, which provides more evidence to support my view, of the impending judgment of this system (monetary system), in terms of standards according to the Holy Scripture.

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Below, is a long–term silver chart (real and nominal) from 1850 to present (generated at minefund.com):

MineFund’s real precious metals prices are deflated by U.S. consumer price inflation (Consumer Price Index-All Urban Consumers, not seasonally adjusted, January 2011 = 100).

I have drawn a vertical red line, approximately where silver was demonetized (1870s). Notice how the real price of silver collapsed after the red line, from about $30, until it bottomed in 1931 at $4.29. It then traded side-ways (from the big-picture view) for many years, until it spiked from about the early 1970s, making a peak in 1980, where after, it bottomed again in 2001.

Technically, the bottom in 2001 was the completion of what would be a remarkable double bottom reversal, with the first bottom being in 1931. After a double bottom formation, there is often a big rally, and that is exactly what happened next. If this pattern continues to follow the pattern of a valid double bottom, it will reach levels that will exceed the 1980 high by at least one multiple, but probably by many more.

However, the purpose of this article is not to deal with targets. The interesting thing about this possible double bottom is the fact that the two bottoms came 70 years apart. This 70 years period also appears on the long-term Dow chart. Below is a Dow chart (from stockcharts.com) from 1900 to present:

On the chart, I have indicated a 70 year period from when the Dow peaked in 1929, to the peak in 1999. The reason for using the 1999 peak instead of the 2007 peak, is the fact that the 1999 peak represents the real peak, since the Dow/Gold peaked in 1999 (like it did in 1929).

Notice the dates of the peaks and how they fit in with that of the bottoms of the real silver price, as well as the similar 70 year periods between. In my opinion, the occurrence of the 70 year period on both charts, in the context as explained above, provides additional evidence of the link between silver’s demonetization (or suppression) and the massive debt bubble of this century – as explained in part 1 of this article.

While the Dow is inflated to the peak in 1929, silver is suppressed to its low in 1931. And again, the Dow is inflated to its peak in 1999, while silver is suppressed to its bottom in 2001.

So, the peaks and troughs, as presented in the above charts, are the manifestation (in visual form) of the debt-based monetary system causing paper and related assets to rise, while suppressing silver. Another way of looking at it is that the debt-based monetary system is fuelling speculation in paper assets by using energy diverted from precious metals. THIS IS THE REAL MANIPULATION OF GOLD AND SILVER – it is in the open.

Silver (like gold) stands in direct opposition to the current monetary system (they are inescapably linked). The fall (and falling) of this system is the rise of silver as money; therefore, massive increases in what silver can buy in real terms. 

Update on the silver pattern presented in my previous article

In my previous article on silver, I presented the following graphic that compares the silver chart from 2007 to today, to the gold chart from 2008 to 2010 (all charts generated at fxstreet.com):

It seems that silver has now made that low at point 12 (note, there is still a possibility of a retest). Price is now looking to break out of the down-trend since September (point 7). If silver continues to follow gold’s pattern above, we could see new all-time highs over the coming months.

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Warm regards and God bless,

Hubert

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“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved”

Silver Price Forecast: Where Is The Silver Price Going?

Silver Market Price Forecast

Silver and gold are in the process of bottoming, and should rally very soon. The depth of the recent decline may be surprising; however, it does not signal the end of the bull market. The fundamentals for silver and gold are very strong, and they have not changed over the last couple of days

We are still using fiat money and debt levels are still extremely high. The massive debts brought about by the debt-based monetary system, will not just go away. A few things have to happen before debt is brought to acceptable levels.

The debts have to be paid or defaulted on. Either way, that means significantly reduced economic activity (Depression) world-wide. That likely also means another big stock market crash. Before this happens it would be foolish to talk about a top in precious metals, since these conditions (a deflating debt bubble) are what will drive gold and silver prices significantly higher.

In a few of my previous articles, I have shown how one can use gold as a leading indicator, to predict what may happen to the silver price. I stated the following:

So, there is not just a similarity in how gold and silver trade at the same time period, but also how they trade at similar milestones, despite the fact that those milestones are sometimes reached at different times. This can cause silver or gold to be the leading indicator, depending on the particular milestone”.

I would like to continue with that theme, and use gold’s past patterns to suggest how the silver price will perform over the next couple of months.

Below is a graphic that compares the silver chart (from 2007 to today), to the gold chart (from 2008 to 2010) (all charts generated at fxstreet.com):

The top chart is for silver and the bottom is for gold. I have highlighted how similar patterns exist on both charts. On both charts are ascending triangles, marked 1 to 3, out of which the price broke out to the upside. After the break-out, price increased significantly, from where both formed a consolidation pattern.

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The ascending triangle for silver (roughly 30 months) is much bigger than that of gold (roughly 19 months). The consolidation patterns for both charts took roughly the same amount of time to form, relative to their ascending tri-angles (about half of the time of the tri-angles).

So, from these two charts, it seems that silver is still following gold’s lead – but, are those consolidating patterns similar? It might not be clear that they are similar, but let’s take a closer look.

Below, I compare the two consolidating patterns, to see if there are any similarities:

Again, the top chart is for silver and the bottom for gold. I have highlighted significant points (1 to 12) on both charts to suggest how the patterns may be similar. The first significant similarity to point out, is the fact that the first part of both patterns formed a cup (points 1 to 5), which are similar to cups formed, right at the beginning of both their respective triangles. (See the previous chart – the cups start at point 1 and finishes halfway to point 2).

The fact that the first parts of both patterns are similar to cups within their respective triangles, lends more justification for comparing these patterns. One of the reasons why it might not be so apparent that these two patterns are similar, is the fact that the angle at which the patterns appear, are different overall, as well as for some individual patterns, within the pattern. For example, for gold the cup (1 to 5) slants upward, from left to right, whereas for silver it slants downwards.

Now, if you look at both chart in detail, and compare the points I have highlighted, you will see that they are quite similar. If these two patterns are indeed similar, then silver is searching for that point 12, which could already be in today, or could be in (lower) over the next couple of days.

If the similarity between the two patterns continues, then we could have a massive rally soon. This is therefore consistent with my previous analysis which calls for a much higher silver price over the next couple of months.

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Warm regards and God bless,

Hubert

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Silver Price Forecast Video : Silver Is The ideal Asset For A Monetary Collapse part 2

Silver Price Forecast: Silver During A Monetary Collapse

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Silver Price Forecast Video : Silver Is The ideal Asset For A Monetary Collapse

Silver Price Forecast: Silver During A Monetary Collapse

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Silver Price Forecast 2012 And Beyond: Silver Bull Market vs Dow Bull Market

Silver Price Forecast Video:  Comparing the Dow’s bull market of the 80s and 90s to the current silver bull market. Similarities predict that silver prices should rise significantly over the coming years:

 

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Silver Price Forecast: Why Silver For A Monetary Collapse? Part 1

Silver Price Forecast:

We are at the edge of a major economic crisis. Our monetary system is the underlying cause of this major crisis. The massive debt bubble created by our monetary system is about to burst. The demonetization of gold and silver, has over the years diverted value from these metals, to all paper assets (such as bonds) linked to the debt-based monetary system.

The process of the devaluation of gold and silver, started by the demonetization of gold and silver, is about to reverse at a greater speed than ever before. This is similar to what happened during the late 70s, when the gold and silver price increased significantly. However, what happened in the 70’s was just a prelude to this coming rally. The 70’s was the end of a cycle, this is likely the end of a major cycle; an end of an era of the debt-based monetary system (dishonest money).

This era of dishonest money, has filled the economic world with many promises that will never be fulfilled. There will be a massive flight out of paper promises, into the ideal safe haven assets that would offer protection.

The type of assets that people will flee to depends on the extent to which the assets offer protection against the specific crisis. For example, if people are extremely thirsty, then most would likely go for water, instead of milk or soft drinks. They would therefore rank water higher than soft drinks or milk. The reason that they would go for water is due to its superior properties, for countering the thirst crisis.

In a similar manner, people will run to the assets that have the ideal properties to counter risks and issues brought about by this economic crisis. Most people in the  hard-money camp will agree that gold is the asset that people will flee to in this economic crisis, but for some reason, there  are those (sometimes respected analysts) that believe that silver is not that safe-haven asset.

I believe that people will (and are) running to gold, not because gold was ordained by some divine providence or something, but: because it has those specific properties to offer protection against the crisis – properties given by God. It follows naturally that whatever assets have similar properties, will be similarly in big demand, as a safe- haven.

What are the properties of gold that offers so much protection against this crisis?

Simplified, it is important to understand that the true nature of this crisis is monetary; therefore, assets that possess monetary properties will be the premier assets. The issue here is not whether gold, silver or other assets are money or not. It is whether they have monetary properties, because that is what people will be after.

Good money should be effective as a store of value, a medium of exchange as well as a unit of account. In order for money to be effective in the above it has to have the following properties:

  • divisible – should be divisible in smaller units
  • portable – able to carry it around therefore a high value should be able to be contained in a small space and weight
  • homogenous – one unit should be the same as any another unit
  • durable – should not be able to be easily destroyed or eroded
  • valuable – should have intrinsic value, normally because it is desirable. Should not be able to be created or discovered without reasonable effort.  normally a commodity itself.

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Gold has all the above properties. It is almost a perfect fit. How about silver? Is it not also a perfect fit?  In fact, silver is a perfect fit as much as gold is; there is not much to choose between the two. Gold and silver are the two assets that best fit the above properties; therefore, both will be the assets in most demand. If someone tries to convince otherwise (that silver will not offer protection like gold), he has to show how silver does not fit the properties that will offer protection against this crisis (the above listed properties).

Personally, I prefer silver over gold. Mainly because: silver offers better value as a result of it being one of the most undervalued assets today, it is less likely to be confiscated (at least for a while), it is more accessible for now due to its lower price. However, I recommend both.

Chart Analysis

Below, I have put together two great long-term charts. The top one, is from minefund.com, and features the gold-silver ratio from 1791 to present. The bottom chart, is from sharelynx.com, and features the Dow-gold ratio from 1800 to present.

I have lined-up the two charts. I will only point out a few things here. The first thing is the double-top in the gold-silver ratio, and the recent failed attempt (at the 80 level) to test the highs. This makes a test of the all-time highs very unlikely and a test of 16 (the bottom between the two tops) very likely.

I have drawn a vertical blue line, approximately where silver was demonetized (1870s). Notice how the gold-silver ratio started rising, becoming very volatile with three massive peaks eventually forming.  The Dow/gold ratio also made three massive peaks after the blue line.

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The Dow/gold ratio (when high) is in some way, a proxy for the extent to which value is diverted from real money to paper assets. The 80 years before the blue line, silver and gold was generally still money. The gold-silver ratio was reasonably stable and lower than 20, and the Dow-gold ratio was at lower levels.

After the blue line, the gold–silver ratio rises significantly, and becomes very volatile. The Dow-gold ratio also rises significantly, showing the extent to which value is being diverted from real money (silver) to paper assets. After, gold is demonetized (by the 30s), the Dow/gold ratio rises even more, making higher peaks, and showing the extent to which value is being diverted from both gold and silver, to paper assets.

This trend has been reversing since about 1999, and it is likely that the speed of the reversal will soon intensify. Notice how the Dow-gold ratio tested the 1 level in 1980. That level is incidentally the key- level at which it broke out of during the 1870s, which is exactly when silver was demonetized. At the same time, in 1980, the gold-silver ratio also made a significant low of about 16. Both ratios were attempting to go back to pre-1870s levels. Was it a co-incidence that both ratios tested the 1870 levels?

After the double-top, it is almost certain that the gold-silver ratio will go back to the 16 level, and even look to touch an extreme level, lower at possibly 7. Technically, based on the extreme highs of the two peaks of the double-top, a ratio of 1:1 is not impossible.

Based on the true fundamentals, it is reasonable to expect things to settle at pre-1870’s levels – eventually. That is, that gold and silver will be used as money, with the gold-silver ratio at between a possible 10 and 16.

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Hubert

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Silver vs Nasdaq (Silver Price Forecast 2012): A response to Mr Erik Swarts

Silver Price Forecast 2012:

I recently read an article by Mr Erik Swarts, which I found very interesting. I enjoy reading his articles, since he often identifies fractals on financial charts, in order to forecast, what may or may not happen. This is exactly what I specialize in.

In this particular article, he compares silver with the NASDAQ, and states:

To further color what I perceived to be the unbridled risk appetite within the silver market, I contrasted silver with the parabolic rise and break of the Nasdaq market in 2000. Interestingly, both markets have traded very similar, both through the parabolic rise and breakdown, when contrasted with the relative strength of their closest cousins – the SPX for the NDX and GLD with SLV

Specifically in that article (and the related articles), he compares the April 2011 peak in silver, with that of the Nasdaq in 2000. The correlation between the two patterns has been quite accurate thus far. However, I am of the view that this correlation will not continue; it is about to diverge significantly. This is why:

On financial charts, a particular pattern can often repeat itself, on the same chart, as well as on the chart of another good. Often, two patterns correlate for some time, but then it can suddenly diverge. Whether two patterns will continue their correlation or diverge, depends on many things.

One of the important things that I look at is the context in which the two patterns exist. If the context in which they exist are similar, then it is very likely that the correlation between the two patterns will continue, and vice versa.

When considering the context, one also has to look at the relevant time frame. If the relevant conditions surrounding both patterns, exist in similar time frames, or span over similar time frames, it increases the likelihood of the two patterns continuing the correlation.

The top in the Nasdaq in 2000, came at a time when the stocks were significantly overvalued compared to real assets. In fact, it was at all-time highs. This is because the Dow/gold ratio peaked in 1999, at about 44, and was still close to 40 when the NASDAQ peaked.

I do not believe silver was overvalued on a historical basis (on a short-term basis it might have been). It was only at its 1980 all-time nominal high, and still below the inflation adjusted high. The gold/silver ratio might have been at a recent low (it was at 32), but that is not an all-time low. In fact, the long-term mean (200 years and more) is lower. So, in terms of gold, silver was not at an extreme level, it was in fact undervalued.

The top in the Nasdaq was an all-time high, with no other peak coming close to it. As said before, the peak in silver was only at the 1980 all-time nominal high. So, the structures of the two charts are very different from a long-term perspective; therefore, the two peaks are very different from a long- term perspective. The macro view takes precedence over the short-term view, and in this case, the macro view, suggests that the pattern of silver should diverge from the Nasdaq pattern.

To illustrate that the macro view suggests that the path for silver is likely up, and not down from here, I have prepared the following chart that compares silver to the Dow:

The top is silver, and the bottom is the Dow. In order to put the two charts in similar context, I have looked for certain markers, and matched the charts accordingly. In 1980, the Dow made a bottom, as measured in gold and silver. For silver, a similar bottom would be when the Dow/silver ratio peaked. For both charts, these points, respectively, were at significant lows for each.

Using the Dow/gold and Dow/silver ratio as a marker is important, since it gives us a proper context. It gives us what a Dow/dollar ratio is not able to give us, since it is an unreliable measure, due to the nature of fiat money.

I have marked the points that I perceive to be similar (1 to 4). It is interesting to note that point 1, on both charts, came about 7 years after the Dow/silver ratio bottomed/peaked. Based on this comparison, we are at a point just above point 4, on the silver chart, relative to the Dow chart. If the silver pattern continues to follow the Dow pattern, we could test the $50 level soon, and could make new all-time highs over the coming years.

Also, it does not mean that I do not expect the markets to be in for a rough ride over the coming months. In fact, I expect a significantly rough ride for the stock markets; it is just that I expect silver to move up, counter to the direction of the general markets.

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Hubert Moolman

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Silver Price Forecast: Silver $140 At Least ?

I am trying out the Youtube medium for publishing updates on gold and silver. I have done the following video on silver. Please send to those who might be interested in silver, but, do not often read financial sites?

Silver Price  Forecast 2012:

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Hubert